Sunday, March 10, 2013

experience unthinkable, except freedom from thinking


Can you experience unthinkable, except freedom from thinking (nibbana)?

This question refers to [Special EPhex] comment:

"Reincarnation and the existence of past lives is an experiential reality. The Hindu and Buddhist scripture do not refer to a thought process, but rather teach what is realized when all thought process is transcend. The Western mind interprets them as philosophic rather than an experiential applicable way of being. Because you my not have experienced them does not mean it is not true"…

[Nucleus] standing is:
"If rebirth/reincarnation in Hindu and Buddhist scriptures refer to what is realized when a thought transcends to another thought, such inter-state realization should be a thought as well.
All worldly existence is experienced as thought.
Thinking about Nibbana is also thought, where Nibbana is freedom from thought"

Additional Details

@ℑosh Aℓfred,
Sensual feelings, perceptions, etc do not exclude thinking.
This is not the place to explain the possibility of nibbanna (freedom) and how to enter it.

@Fake Genius,
In your examples, you and your monkeys experience existence only by

1st of all, can you listen to every single seconds detail from that time when I borned ?? ( your life-time would not be enough to listen such detail ) Ok, get ready to enjoy my poop stuff as well.

"In Buddhism, consciousness (viññāṇa) is one of the five classically defined experiential aggregates".ñāna

Con+scious is accumulation (pull together) of idea as a state of being awake and aware of one's surroundings. Conscious is different to 'Samadhi'.

Your comment stated "... in unison with entire is called 'Sat-Chit-Ananda swaroopa' - of the nature Existence, Consciousness, Bliss! .." meaning worldly existence and not freedom from existence.
Bliss also is a state of existence. What creates existence? ignorance.

If worldly nothingness (zero state) exists, it is not freedom from thought!

Please re-evaluate the validity of your hypothesis, because it is proven as false in Buddhism.…

"One of this realm's most famous inhabitants is the Great Brahma, a deity whose delusion leads him to regard


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